Over at our awesome Chart Harmony Discord, I get asked questions. Recently, one of ’em was about what number of planets in the same sign constitutes a stellium. So…
Here’s my point o’ view:
The strictest definition of a stellium is at least 3 traditional planets or luminaries NOT INCLUDING SUN + MERCURY in the same sign (and using Whole Signs, that’d be in the same house as well, of course).
That means neither of my stelliums is a stellium. :\ (which is why this is not the definition I go by)
Because I have:
10H MC, Sun, Mercury, Mars (4 things… but only 2, per strictest traditional astro)
and
1H ASC, Moon, Jupiter, Uranus (4 things… but only 2, per strictest traditional astro)
And the number we want is 3.
Now, because what we are ACTUALLY MEASURING is energy, I have to ask, “Why so strict?” And, I’m reminded that a lot of the strictness came about at a time when people were specifically using astrology to disadvantage certain people while keeping those in power… in power.
When we aren’t looking for reasons to EXCLUDE people from having “powerful things” like a lot of concentrated energy in one sign/one house, I feel (and many astrologers — and app designers — feel) as though we can be a bit more generous with our definition of stellium.
So, I go with 3+ planets or luminaries in the same sign/same house (non-planetary mathematical POINTS are “bonus points” rather than THE THING that could push something over to “3 things”).
Back to me for illustration:
10H MC, Sun, Mercury, Mars (4 things… 3 planets/luminaries + 1 bonus point, therefore a stellium)
and
1H ASC, Moon, Jupiter, Uranus (4 things… 3 planets/luminaries + 1 bonus point, therefore a stellium)
Now, you’ll notice that I went outside the traditional planets with my 1H Uranus. And there’s a good argument for NOT counting an “outer” as part of a stellium.
So, I could be talked out of my 1H stellium… except for the fact that ever since my Uranus opposition (one of the more exciting/impactful midlife transits), Uranus is VERY MUCH a part of how I do my 1H doings. So… they count, IMO.
Does that help? Or give you more questions? Or both!?! π
Use the comments below to tell me about your chart-based concentrations of energy. Do you have a stellium?
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Iβm still pretty new to this, I have 1H Venus, Chiron, Mercury, and Ascendant. Then I have 6H North Node, Vertex, Uranus, and Neptune. If I understood correctly my 1H is a stellium and the 6H isnβt because both planets are outer planets. Did I get that right?
Hey! For someone “new” at this, you’re doing great!!
It’s likely your 1H also wouldn’t be considered a stellium by most folks, because Chiron is not only NOT a traditional planet; it’s not a planet at all (same with Vertex and North Node). So, because that leaves your Venus, Mercury, and Ascendant as the players we’d consider, you’re in that same “depends on who you ask” situation I find myself in.
You didn’t mention what sign your 1H is, but I’d ask you: Do you really feel driven by that sign? Is it a big part of your personality? I mean, it already WILL be a big player because your Ascendant always is (it’s the driver of our Life-Car), but do you find yourself really leaning into that 1H sign for how you move through the world?
I’m more likely to call something a stellium than not, so I may still say that’s a 1H stellium you have. π
BTW, I also have my North Node in the 6H and it’s been a fascinating journey, learning how to practice my destiny on the daily. Some days are easier than others for using that new muscle! π